Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001

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you're flying missions and planning it was pretty much on a name basis with everybody on the crew.
INT:You guys were just dependent on each other.
PM:You have to be tight, yeah, or it's not a crew.
INT:Yeah. So, and you flew this crew for how long prior to '68 say—
PM:Boy I, you know, I don't remember exactly.
INT:More or less than a year?
PM:Yeah, I think it was less than a year.
INT:Oh, okay. And, just give us a brief overview of your position in the plane.
PM:Okay. The B-52 was set up with the AC. If the nose of the airplane is this direction, the AC sat over here upstairs [left seat], the co-pilot sat here [right seat].
INT:Right.
PM:And also upstairs and behind them you had the EW facing this direction [backwards], the Gunner here facing this direction [backwards].
INT:Okay. Same level.
PM:Same level. Below, roughly, maybe slightly forward of the EW and Gunner, but on the deck below, you had the navigator on this side—the same side as the co-pilot, and a radar navigator on the left side. There were 2 ejection seats. And there was just space for one person to go in-between the seats, get in his seat, and the next per—you couldn't—there wasn't enough for both people. Unless you were really thin, I don't know how you'd get through there. And I wasn't.
INT:So, would you go down a ladder?
PM:Yeah.
INT:Okay. So down in the back of that hallway there was a ladder going down, or steps into—
PM:There was a hatch, like a trap door. It was halfway between the location of the pilot's and the EW and the Gunner and see, there was a ladder that

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