Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001
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| things. And I said, I had not been—you know, I told the wife that I'd seen something pretty unusual that night, but I hadn't been talking to anybody outside of the crew or General Holland or anybody, 'cause no one had said anything, but I didn't know, I thought the prudent thing was not to discuss it. So I asked this guy, 'Can I talk to people about this—am I at liberty to discuss this with anybody or not?" And he said, "Sure. I don't care. Go ahead." So it was no big deal to him, unless, all I can figure is, the fix was already in, but, you know, they had their explanation, because he made it clear to me that I could talk to anybody I wanted to about it. | ||
| INT: | And this happened how far after— | |
| PM: | Ah, I'd say within the week of the incident. Yeah. Maybe within 2 or 3 days, but within a week, I'd say. | |
| INT: | Okay. | |
| PM: | And it just kinda from that point it just kinda fizzled. I mean it just [makes gesture]. It was no more. | |
| INT: | You guys were onto other things? | |
| PM: | Well, I left in two months. I was gone to pilot training and the other guys, you know, I lost touch with most of them. I saw Chuck Ritchie in the Pentagon in the early '80's. | |
| INT: | Oh yeah? | |
| PM: | 1980, I saw him. | |
| INT: | While you were there? | |
| PM: | Yeah. He was about to be a Base Commander, I believe, down here in Lackland, and Chuck had borrowed a field jacket from me when we were on the crew together, and I said—I kept bugging him. I guess I had talked to him a couple times over the years, and I said, "When am I gonna get my field jacket back?" I kept asking him before I left the base and all that stuff. He never gave it to me. So when I saw him at the Pentagon, I said, "Chuck, where's my field jacket?" and he actually had the field jacket. He got it to me. | |
| INT: | Oh yeah? | |
| PM: | But we had lunch at one of the Pentagon cafeteria's, and I said, "Boy, do you remember that incident with the UFO?" and he said, "No." I said, "What? You don't remember anything about that?" "Naw. I don't know |
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