Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001

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PM:Okay, well could be. I mean, at some point Tom said something to us about having some strange stuff on his scope—stuff he'd never seen before. Maybe he reflected on it later and thought it seemed normal, but I do remember that being—
INT:Oh, here's a sort of a problematic aspect. I mean you remember the thing going off scope about 1 or 2 miles away from the runway, and at 5,000 feet? Does that—
PM:I don't know. I can't remember what our altitude was. I mean, if I said we were at 5,000 feet I was guessing. The only way you'd know exactly where we were, well, the altitude we were at—I remember we were leveling off prior to our final descent to the runway, and whatever altitude that was would be determined by the approach plate at that time. It'd tell you on there, you know, where that was and what—
INT:Right. You remember it dropping away from you about 1 or 2 miles away from the runway, does that make sense?
PM:I'm assum—when I say 1 or 2 miles, I'm assuming that's about how far out we were. I mean it could've been 3 or 4.
INT:Could it have been 10 or 16?
PM:I suppose. I mean again, I'd have to go back and look at the approach plate, but normally having gone on to be a pilot, well, it would depend on the approach. It would depend on—some approaches you level off at an altitude, fly in for quite awhile, and then do your final descent. But I'd have to look at the approach plate. Maybe 1 or 2 miles was wrong, I don't—
INT:Well, I think the documents say 16, but you know it looks more like 10 miles out.
PM:Could be. I mean, I don't even know how far the VOR—or the nav aid was to the northwest.
INT:Well, the reason Jim's asking this is because if it was only a mile out why would they send the B-52 back over it? Why not just send out a—
PM:Send out a crew. Yeah, that's true.
INT:Yeah. He says, do you remember the tower asking you to go around for a visual pass, but he said you didn't have the radio traffic in your ear, so you heard that from the pilot?

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