Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001
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| INT: | Let's see. Where'd we jump off there? | |
| PM: | Okay, we were at General Holland's office, and that is where I learned about the missile crews, that's where I learned about the security policemen. I had no idea this thing was being seen by other people. | |
| INT: | And who told you that? | |
| PM: | General Holland did. | |
| INT: | So he just laid everything out for you? | |
| PM: | I don't think he gave us a great bunch of detail. I mean he talked in terms of, "Well, a couple of security policemen were...had this thing hovering right over 'em." Scared 'em to death. A couple of young guys. | |
| INT: | Hovering right over 'em? Over their vehicle? | |
| PM: | Over their vehicle, and that—my memory is that it's at that briefing where I learned that, you know, when they saw that thing leave them, they—my memory is that he said that it went dark—it was hovering over them—that it went dark and lifted up. Descended away from 'em. And that at the same time, they saw our airplane making that initial approach, and that it took off in the same direction our airplane was going. So it started—in my mind, then it all started to come together. But that was the first time that I'd had that laid out. And I also heard—although, you know, the communication from the tower was that there'd been missile crews seeing things, that was the first time that I'd had it confirmed that there'd been missile crews actually seeing things. Didn't say exactly what it was, but I think it was General Holland that told us that there'd been an outer alarm go off, which was not unusual—and I wasn't a missileer, so I'm not privy to all this, but the outer alarm was the perimeter fence and sometimes rabbits would set it off. So that wasn't all that unusual, but a few seconds after that, or a minute after that or whatever, they had an inner alarm go off, and that's serious business. That means some— | |
| INT: | Somebody's tampering with the... | |
| PM: | Yeah, with the blast doors or, you know, it's pretty serious business. Requires an investigation by SAC Headquarters and all this stuff, as I understand it. | |
| INT: | Yeah. |
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