Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001
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| INT: | All the old Air Force Blue Book files are at the National Archives on microfilm. | |
| PM: | Yeah, I know that. It wasn't anything I pursued real strongly, you know, but yeah, he sent it to me. And I've been so busy since all this started, that I haven't had time to sit there and analyze every page, but I did flip through it real quick. I don't even remember if I saw my name in there. I don't think I did, but it may have been in there somewhere. But I flipped through it real quick and I do remember seeing the scope photos, and I do remember—I saw Werlich's name. I don't remember that I knew exactly what his job was at the time, but I saw the approach plate—I saw a picture of the approach plate. I saw some reference to the sky cops. I saw some reference to the missileers. You know, debriefing. I didn't go through their debriefing stuff, but I saw that it was in there, and I saw the scope photos and I did look at those and I knew that I could—I think I told Jim that in a e-mail or maybe a phone conversation—that I saw the blip and I think he said he hadn't seen it, or he couldn't see it but I knew where it was. I could see it. | |
| INT: | Our copies of the scope photos are really bad. [This was prior to discovering the original 35mm photographic prints that were the source for the poor-quality microfilm reproductions in the Blue Book documents]. | |
| PM: | Yeah. | |
| INT: | We're actually trying to find the original to get some good, clean copies. When we do that we'll send them to you, but we'd love to get your interpretation of those. | |
| PM: | Sure. | |
| INT: | You can verify that was the stuff you shot that night? | |
| PM: | I mean the stuff I looked—the stuff I saw was just scope photos. I mean it didn't say 'From B-52 such and such' I don't think. It had a time clock up there which corresponded—it was in Zulu time, Greenwich mean time, but it looked like it corresponded to the time frame we were flying. And the headings were correct. It was in station keep, which was correct. The blip I saw would have been when we first picked it up. | |
| INT: | Okay. | |
| PM: | It was on the outbound leg. And the scope photos I saw had none of the stuff from inbound. None. All that's missing |
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