Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001
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| INT: | That's what's odd about Holland. Actually when he started there he was a Colonel— | |
| PM: | Well, it has to do with dates and rank and everything. Might've brought him in just short prior to his pin-on date. | |
| INT: | Let me ask you this—so you had sort of regular contact with Holland? | |
| PM: | No. Never saw the man before. | |
| INT: | 'Cause he was Division Commander? | |
| PM: | Right. That would've been just short of God. You know, a demi-god. | |
| INT: | Yeah. But, do you recall that that's who it was that gave the debriefing, and was he alone? | |
| PM: | Was General Holland alone when we talked? | |
| INT: | Yeah. | |
| PM: | I can't remember if there was any other staff in the room, but I remember it being a fairly informal discussion. He invited us in, put us all at ease— | |
| INT: | How many of you? | |
| PM: | The whole crew was there except for, well, here I go again. I was there, Goduto was there, Runyon was there, Cagle was not there. Don Cagle was our aircraft commander. He was not there. | |
| INT: | Why wasn't he there? Do you know? | |
| PM: | Well, the discussion at the time was that he had an interview with Delta Airlines the next morning, and he refused to look at this thing during the flight. | |
| INT: | Do you remember that at that time? That that's what happened? He would've been in the jump seat. | |
| PM: | Yeah. I don't remember. I mean, I'm downstairs, but there was some discussion about him during the over flight not wanting to see this thing, probably at the point where they were inviting me up to take a look. He didn't want to see it, because he did not want to have to stick around the next day to discuss what he saw. | |
| INT: | —at a debriefing? |
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