Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 25 February 2001
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| PM: | Chances are, at the point we over—if it was near or on the ground we wouldn't have seen anything on radar anyway. | |
| INT: | That's what I'm talking about. | |
| PM: | We were just in ground clutter. What's a GO? | |
| INT: | General Officer. | |
| PM: | Oh. Yeah, well General Officers aren't the brightest guys in the world either on all things. I mean he may not— | |
| INT: | Well, maybe he just thought you had a camera on board, a bomb camera or something you could film with that. | |
| PM: | I'm not aware of any camera where we could've taken a picture of it, unless it would've been a handheld. The radar would not have done you any good, because it would've been lost in the ground clutter if it was on or near the ground. | |
| INT: | Yeah, in the debriefing, did you ever get any hint of a nuclear incident associated with that silo. | |
| PM: | No. | |
| INT: | Yeah. | |
| PM: | Not I didn't. | |
| INT: | We've answered a lot of these, but I'll just re-phrase them here. Alright, you never saw the object but you have a description of it which matches Runyon's? | |
| PM: | Yeah. | |
| INT: | How did you know that? At what point did you learn that? | |
| PM: | Well, I talked earlier—I believe it was Brad or one of the pilots either discussed it in the debriefing right after the flight—or I heard it when they debriefed General Holland the next day, but it was either one of those. | |
| INT: | Now let's talk about that last group of people that came out. When you say group of people, how many people came out. | |
| PM: | Came out? |
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