William E. Smith Interview, 11 July 2001(a)

WS

—oh, sure.

JK

Refer to what we said.

WS

Well, sure. I have nothing that I am trying to fabricate or hide. So please feel free.

JK

Yeah, it's not only a matter of courtesy, and I should have asked you up front.

WS

My daughter lives in Washington. She lives in Seattle.

JK

Oh, is that right? That's pretty close. I am in a suburb about nine miles north of Seattle. There's a couple things I wanted to ask you here. Now, I can send you a copy of these Blue Book documents if you would like to see them.

WS

I would love to have a copy, yes. And it also may help me remember some things, too.

JK

Yeah, that's my hope. We really would like to get ahold of the other security police that were with you or on that camper team.

WS

Ken, Ken Bagjiar is the name of that other—It all starts to come back when you start thinking about it. And I can see his face. I am wondering. There used to be pictures and things like that. We used to take pictures of all of our groups of our flights, and I am just wondering. Have you tried Air Force locators?

JK

Yeah. I just had a long last three weeks, I have been negotiating with the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. They have the records there but they will not search a name unless you can provide either a service number or a Social Security number.

WS

You know, I have some old documents, some old things, and I will start looking through those. I know I have some old pictures, and old training documents and records. As a matter of fact, I have been meaning to go get rid of those things because they're just collecting dust.

JK

Well, hey, what an opportunity to go through them.

WS

Wow, that's awesome.

JK

Now, the B-52 crew had a crew photograph.

WS

Right.

JK

And they—if fact, two of them did. In fact, one of the crew was just going to leave the Air Force and go to work for Delta Airlines. He became a big wheel in Delta, and he's

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