Patrick D. McCaslin Interview, 11 November 2000
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| hard for me to take notes 'cause there's a fair amount of it, would you have any objection if I recorded this? | ||
| PM | No, go ahead. I think all I can tell you is what I remember. I don't think I can get fired for that [laughs]. | |
| JK | No, I reckon not. So go ahead, you were talking about Standard Evaluation— | |
| PM | No. I was just saying that crew that I had the picture of was the crew that was involved in this incident - we were on a training flight, and I went out there after I got home today from work and looked around and I couldn't find it in my first look around, I know it's out there somewhere, but I do have a picture of the crew. | |
| JK | That'd be very nice. I'm sure Mr. Runyan would like to see that. | |
| PM | He may have it. | |
| JK | Yeah he might. The fellow I'm working with—his name is Tom Tulien out of Minneapolis—did about an hour or a little longer tape with Brad and they went over in pretty good detail. Anyway, would you mind telling me how you came to be stationed at Minot? | |
| PM | I was a Navigator at the time—you know I came into the Air Force— | |
| JK | You were a Captain? | |
| PM | I was a Captain at that time. I had come in through Navigator training and it was my first operational assignment, and I got there I believe in '65, and ended up in STANEVAL and went from there to pilot training, and for the rest of my career I was a pilot. | |
| JK | Would that have been Castle for pilot training? | |
| PM | No. The pilot training I did at Laredo. That was right after this incident. | |
| JK | OK, so you'd been there a couple of years when this occurred. | |
| PM | Yeah, I'd been there about three years. | |
| JK | I'm trying to get a picture of this STANEVAL. Were you guys a crew that flew together all the time? | |
| PM | Yeah, sometimes you'd be called on to do an evaluation on a crew where you'd be the only one going. If there were a Navigator that was going, that needed to be evaluated, then I'd climb on the crew with him and evaluate him. | |
| JK | So this is like qualification stuff right? |
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